tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-46192663393753959022024-03-03T16:25:58.641-08:00AZADÎXWAZ-FREEDOM SEEKERBelê Em Kurd in û Em Azadîxwaz in -- Yes we are the Kurds and we are the Freedom-SeekersAzadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4619266339375395902.post-69643647814599513542010-08-23T16:32:00.000-07:002010-08-23T16:32:48.135-07:00Kurdish People and Reality of the PKKHere is a great article written by Nabi Yagcioglu in daily Taraf. I dont have to say that I dont agree with everything he says, but he does speak the truth. Here is the <a href="http://taraf.com.tr/nabi-yagci/makale-kurt-halki-ve-pkk-gercegi.htm">link</a> to the original in Turkish, too.<br />
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<blockquote><div style="background-color: transparent; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span id="internal-source-marker_0.8221299713477492" style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Nowadays there are two confusing phenomena : Reality of the AK Party and that of the PKK. In order to clarify these confusions, one needs to look at the peoples </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">[behind these movements]</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. When I look at from this perspective, I see enlightening awakening of the Islam-oriented populace prior to AK Party and rising libertarian awakening of the Kurdish people prior to the PKK.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Before the fruit, one needs to see the soil that gives life and taste to it.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">All of us, from time to time, say “It was the oppressive atmosphere of September 12th</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">[the military coup d’etat of 1980]</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> that created PKK”. This judgement is only one facet of the reality. PKK is not solely a product of the September 12th. PKK is an organization, one of the organizations that resilient Kurdish people created, a people that did not let itself to be either assimilated or annihilated by the state of the Turkish Republic.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Yesterday[past] was different, but today when one thinks of the reality of the PKK, it should not be only weapons that come to mind, prior to that, the support that it receives from its people should be acknowledged. There is sociology behind that support. In the southeast,at least one person from every family (one should think of family in terms of relatives as well) is either in this war, or extra-judicially [by the deep and open state] killed, and at least one person has rebelled and went to the mountains </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">[to join the guerillas]</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. It does not end there, countless villages and hamlets have been evacuated </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">[forcefully by the Turkish Armed Forces]</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, thousands of Kurds have been forced to immigrate to the west. They were forced into a destitute situation of unemployment,lack of education, and hunger. And there is a history, Dersim Massacre is not the only example</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">[there are many more]</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. </span><br />
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">This is oppression</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">[tyranny]</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Rebelling against oppression is a right.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">From “there is no Kurd” nonsense they have come to “Kurds are our brothers” purple prose. “We are brothers, we have been living together for ages, we have intermarried” discourse is only one side of the reality, and from this perspective it is a miracle that peoples </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">[Kurds and Turks together]</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> have created; however when looked from a political point of view, this </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">[merely]</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> is a hypocrisy that hides </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">[undermines]</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> the oppression and inequality. </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">There can exist no brotherhood where there is inequality. </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">And expecting brotherhood from the one that is oppressed, downtrodden, sufferer is deceiving oneself if not naivite. If humanism is not understood correctly, it could turn into an ornamental shawl that is used to hinder inequality and injustice.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> Contrary to the popular belief, it is not the ones who are oppressed that decide the form of rebellion, but rather the oppressors. The ones that try to annihilate the others with violence and weapons are reciprocated in the same manner. Sow the wind, and reap the whirlwind.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">What have you given</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">[in order to have the face]</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> to be asking for?</span><br />
<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"></span><br />
<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Here it is, Kurdish people is a people that against all these odds could not be brought down on its knees and assimilated</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> [into Turkishness]</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. Even in the face of this 30 years old bloody history, the Kurds are a resisting people that have caught the national awakening momentum today. These people are still under pressure, but no longer are they downtrodden, or oppressed; they are a competent people that have gained self-confidence and succeeded in establishing their own local governances. This is the rality we are facing, there is no use of contorting the facts. There is a past behind Kurdish people’s freedom struggle, this struggle is a result of accumulation of this people’s and Kurdish intellectuals’ struggle, but by pointing out to this fact, one should not ignore PKK’s role </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">[in this]</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. When I think of the “Kurdish Movement”, I think of the active role of the PKK, but I also think of the waves of a united and rising people’s movement that is composed of factions that think differently from the PKK as well, and a movement of those who were parts of the non-governmental organizations that have transformed into peace and democracy activists. </span><br />
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">This point, especially nowadays, is a sensitive point on which we need think on more attentively. My knowledge and observations tell me that those who are in the Kurdish Movement, and who criticize the mistakes of the PKK, and think of alternative methods of struggling </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">[other than the armed struggle]</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, and even those who vote for the AK Party, all come together around protection of the rights that the Kurdish people have gained. They are aware of the consequences that might arise if this rising wave breaks down. Because, the Kurds know this mechanism called state much better than the Turks, and they know state’s carrot and stick, and divide and control strategies very well, and they dont want to fall into the trap. In my opinion, they are very right. </span><br />
<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"></span><br />
<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Kürt halk hareketinin yükselen dalgasını kırabilecek bir başka tehlike ise bizzat PKK’den gelebilir. Gelinen noktada PKK’nin şiddet eylemlerini sürdürmesi veya kontrol dışı eylemlerle şiddet olaylarının devamı bu bileşik hareketi bölebilir. Batman’da barış ve demokrasinin sevilen dört aktivistinin mayın patlaması sonucu can yakan ölümleri bu tehlikeyi gösteren çok ciddi bir uyarıydı. Bu halk onlarca yıl şiddet altında yaşamaktan bıktı ve yoruldu artık. Barışı bu nedenle en çok onlar istiyor. Ama eşit haklılık temelinde.</span><br />
<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Özetle; hem iç hem dış konjonktür, silahlı eylemi iki taraf için de çıkmaz yol yapmıştır. Barış söylemlerinden “barışı inşa etme” evresine geçilmek zorunda. Barışın inşası sürecine giremez isek ne olur? Geçici ateşkes, kalıcı hale gelemez ve barışın inşası sürecinin kapısını açamazsa sonrasını düşünmek bile istemiyorum.</span><br />
<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"></span><br />
<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Another dangerous move that can break down this rising wave of Kurdish people’s movement could come from the PKK itself. At this point, if PKK continues its acts of violence or continuation of these violent acts out of its control, it could divide this united movement. The deaths of the four beloved activists of peace and democracy in Batman caused by the mine explosion is a very serious warning sign showing the dangers </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">[of such a move]</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. These people are sick and tired of living under this cycle of violence for decades. That is the reason why they are the ones who want peace the most. But based on the principle of equality. Shortly; both domestic and international conjuncture have made it very difficult for both sides to use weapons. Peace discourse has to evolve into “constructing peace” phase. What would happen if we dont move on to constructing peace process,? If the temporary ceasefire</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">[declared by the PKK, unilaterally]</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> does not turn into a permanent ceasefire and cannot open the door the constructing peace process, I dont even want to think about what could happen.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Let me tell you by reminding you the words of deceased Turgut Ozal </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">[Turkey’s president during 1993, in which PKK has declared its first unilateral ceasefire]</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Georgia; font-size: 12pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> that was cited by Cengiz Candar: If this ceasefire breaks down, the violence would return multi-folds and the country would turn into a blood bath.</span></div></blockquote><br />
PS: The writings in italic in brackets are my additions to clarify the meaning.Azadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4619266339375395902.post-17738451310973517122010-08-16T03:23:00.000-07:002010-08-16T03:25:03.051-07:00sincere are my deeds!<span id="internal-source-marker_0.9482638601034076" style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >noble were my ancestors/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >sincere my deeds/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >that is why i sacrificed so many a life/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >so that we can prevent the big strife/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >that will make us our live even more damning and dooming/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >while peace is what we really are seeking/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >no i am not giving up/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >i shall drink from the golden cup/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >the sacred water of martyrdom/ </span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >if need be, to reach long awaited freedom/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >you all shall witness my might/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >with the sword of Damocles/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >your path will be filled with light/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >light of Saladin, that defeated Lionheart/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >it is this heart i have that gives me strength/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >otherwise how can i go to this length/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >little do they know of my anger and power/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >if they don’t give what is mine/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >i will take by sword and by powder/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >let it be know to them, to the bloodthirsty enemies/</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >or else they wont have a chance to escape my sword/ </span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >even if they have strongest of the armies.</span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" ></span><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >biji Kurdistan, bimri koledar!</span><br /><br /><span style="background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;color:black;" >ps: a lot of things are happening in Kurdistan and I will be writing a post very soon about recent development and what they mean for us! </span>Azadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4619266339375395902.post-16907431427787184102010-03-25T17:29:00.000-07:002010-03-25T17:34:27.818-07:00The Kurds!<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Who are the Kurds?<br /><br /><br />I think Cigerxwin has answered this question better than anybody else, so I will just leave you alone with his great poem called "Kime Ez" or "Who Am I", the only thing you need to do is to replace "I" with "We":<br /></span></span><blockquote><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; "><div style="text-align: left;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">WHO AM I?</span></span></b></div><div style="text-align: left;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></span></b></div><div style="text-align: center;"><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Who am I, you ask ?</span></span></div><span><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">The Kurd of Kurdistan,</span></span></div><span><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">a lively volcano,</span></span></div><span style="color:white;"><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">fire and dynamite</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">in the face of enemy.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">When furious,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I shake the mountains,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">the sparks of my anger</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">are death to my foes.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Who am I ?</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I am in the east,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">forts and castles</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">towns and hamlets,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">rouks and boulders,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">What irony, what a shameful day !</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">A slave I am now for blood suckers</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Yet I saved the Middle East</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">from the Romans and the crusaders.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Who am I ?</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Ask the Near East,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Ask the Middle East,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">villages and towns,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">plains and deserts.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">They were once all mine</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">when by war and knowledge</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I defeated rivals</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">to become crowned over an empire</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">stretching to the borders of India.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Who am I ?</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I am the proud Kurd,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">the enemies' enemy,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">the friend of peace-loving ones.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I am of noble race,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">not wild as they claim.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">My mighty ancestors</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">were free people.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Like them I want to be free</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">and that is why I fight</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">for the enemy won't leave in peace</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">and I don't want to be forever oppressed.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Who am I ?</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I shall free my land</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">from the tyrants;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">from the crrupt Shah and Mollas,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">from the Turkish juntas</span></span></div></span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">so we may live free</span></span></div><span><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">like other nations,</span></span></div><span><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">so my gardens and meadows</span></span></div><span style="color:white;"><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">are mine again;</span></span></div><span><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">So I can join the struggle</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">for the good of mankind.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Who am I ?</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">It was I who defeated </span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Richard the Lionheart</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">My own blood I shed</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">to defend these regions.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">A thorn I was in my enemies' side;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">in my shadow lived the Arabs, Turks and Persian;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">many a king held my horse's head.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Yes I am the warrior,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I am Saladin,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">the King of Egypt, Syria and Israel.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Who am I ?</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I am Ardashir,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I am Noshi Rawan.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">In the acient days</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">rivals feared my caesars</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">regretted my animosity.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I knew no fright;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">in love with adventure;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">from India to Greece</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">they paid me tribute.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Who am I ?</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Yes, I am the Kurd,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">the Kurd of Kurdistan</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">who is poor and oppressed today.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">My castles and forts</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">are now demolished;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">my name and my fame'</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">swindled by my assailants,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">those who set germs into my body </span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">to paralize my existence</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">making a nameless soul of me;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">a nation with no friends.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Who am I?</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I am the one who despite it all</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">remains the unyielding Kurd;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">still formidable to the enemy.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">The smell of dynamite is again in my nostrils</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">and in my heart the strong desire to erupt.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I am the fighting valiant of mountains</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">who is not in love with death</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">but for the sake of life and freedom</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">he sacrifices himself</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">so that the land of his ancestors,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">the invincible Medes;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">his beloved Kurdistan , may become unchained.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Who am I?</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">One of my ancestors was the Blacksmith Kawa</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">who slayed Dahak, the notorious tyrant</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">to break off chains from Kurdish shoulders</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">and save many heads from the sword and death.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">The day his vicious reign ended</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">was called NEWROZ, the New Day.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">When Newroz comes winter departs</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">taking with it the dark harsh times</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">to make place for light and warmth.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">This is the time, as Zoroaster says,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">the evil spirit Ahriman is defeated</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">at the hand of Ormazd, the god of wisdom and light.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Who am I?</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I am the maker of Newroz;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">again I shall become my own master,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">the ruler of my land</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">so I may enjoy the fruits of my orchards,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">relish the sacred wines of my vineyards</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">and put an end to a dark era</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">by seeking salvation in knowledge and science;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I shall make another new day</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">and breathe the pure air of the liberty.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Who am I?</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I am Kordokh, the good old Khaldew;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I am Mitan; Nayri and Sobar;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">the son of Lo Lo; Kardok and Kodi;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I am the Mede, the Gosh, Hori and Gudi;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I am the Kurmanc, Kelhor; Lor and Gor;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">yes, I have always been and remain the Kurd.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Despite centuries of suppression</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">in a country by force divided.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Who am I?</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I am the son of Lor, Kelhor and Kurmanc</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">who have lost crown and reign</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">to become powerless,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">betrayed in the name of religion</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">to carry rosaries in their hands</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">duped by the rulers,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">deprived of might and wealth,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">fighting each other, divided and torn</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">while my oppressed Kurdistan,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">my wretched Kurdistan</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">remains prossessed.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Who am I?</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">The son of the Kurdish nation</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">awaken from deep sleep,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">marching forward,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">proud as a lion</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">wanting the whole world to know;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I shall struggle and continue the path to freedom;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I shall learn from great men,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Like Marx and Lenin.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I make a vow to my ancestors,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">to Salar, Shergo and Deysem,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">that this of mine will remain vigorous, unyielding, stronger than death.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Let it be kown;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I announce with no fear;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Liberty is my goal;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I shall advance in this path.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Who am I ?</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I am not blood thirsty;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">no, I adore peace.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Noble were my ancestors;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">sincere are my leaders,</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">We don't ask for war but demand equality</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">but our enemies are the ones who betray and lie.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Friendship I seek and offer my hands</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">to all friendly nations.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Long live Kurdistan;</span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">death to the oppressor!!!</span></span></div></span></span></span></span></div></span></blockquote><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /><br />And here is the original Kurdish version of the poem which was made into a song by beloved Sivan Perwer, here is the </span></span><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5wtlIaMseQ"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:black;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">link</span></span></span></a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"> to the song:<br /></span></span><blockquote><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">KIME EZ?</span></span></b></blockquote><blockquote><span class="Apple-style-span" style=" font-weight: bold; line-height: 30px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Kîme ez?</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">Kurdê Kurdistan<br />Tev şoreş û volqan<br />Tev dînamêtim<br />Agir û pêtim.<br />Sorim wek etûn,<br />Agir giha qepsûn.<br />Gava biteqim<br />Dinya dihejî.<br />Ev pêt û agir<br />Dijmin dikujî.<br />Kîme ez?<br />Ez im rojhilat,<br />Tev birc û kelat.<br />Tev bajar û gund,<br />Tev zinar û lat.<br />Ji destê dijmin:<br />Dijminê xwînxwar,<br />Xurt û koledar.<br />Ji Rom, ji Fireng,<br />Di rojên pir teng,<br />Bi kuştin û ceng.<br />Parast, parast<br />Parast min ev rojhilat<br />Kîme ez?<br />Rojhilatê nêzîk,<br />Rojhilatê navî,<br />Ev bajar û gund,<br />Ev bej û avî,<br />Ket bin destê min,<br />Pî da ser dijmin,<br />Min bi ceng û şer<br />Zanîn û huner<br />Pişta wî şikand,<br />Serî lê gerand!<br />Ez bûm padîşah,<br />Xurt û serbilind<br />Ketin destê min ta sînorê Hind.<br />Kîme ez?<br />Kîme ez?<br />Kurdê serfiraz<br />Dijminê dijmin<br />Dostê aştîxwaz.<br />Ez xweş mirovim,<br />Ne hirç û hovim!<br />Lê çibkim bê şer<br />Dijmin naçî der.<br />Bav û kalê min<br />Dijîn tev serbest,<br />Naxwazim bijîm<br />Ta ebed bindest.<br />Kîme ez?<br />Divê ez derkevim<br />Dijminê xwînxwar,<br />şahê efyûnkêş,<br />Jontirkê dijwar,<br />Serbest bijîm ez<br />Wek hevçaxê xwe.<br />Dilxweş bixum ez,<br />Rez û baxê xwe.<br />Çekan hilgirim derkevim meydan,<br />Rêcek nû çêkim ji boyî insan.<br />Kîme ez?<br />Ez im ê şikand leskerê Rêşar,<br />Min bi xwîna xwe parastî ev war.<br />Di sînga dijmin ez bûme kelem,<br />Xwe dan siya min Turk û Ecem.<br />Li ser serê min<br />Sinbil û kulah,<br />Serê hespê min<br />Digirt padîşah!<br />Ez im ew gernas,<br />Ew Selahidîn<br />Bi pirs ji dimyat,<br />Bi pirs ji Hetîn,<br />Kîme ez?<br />Ez im Erdeşîr,<br />Ew Noşîrewan,<br />Kesrayê mezin.<br />Bê tac û eywan,<br />Dostê kevnare<br />Ku bûne dijmin,<br />Ser di tewandin,<br />Ber agirê min.<br />Ez im ew qelaş xurt û pehlewan,<br />Xerac min distand ji Hind û Yewnan!<br />Kîme ez?<br />Ez im ew gernas, ez im ew mêrxas,<br />Belê ez im Kurd<br />Îro ez mame<br />Bindest û zigurd!<br />Ew tac û eywan<br />Tev çûn û rizîn,<br />Dijmin nav û deng<br />Tev ji min dizîn!..<br />Xistin laşê min mîkrobên teres,<br />Ta bûm perîşan, bê nav û nekes.<br />Kîme ez?<br />Ez im ew Kurdê serhişk û hesin,<br />Îro jî dijmin ji min ditirsin!...<br />Bîna barûdê<br />Kete pozê min.<br />Dixwazim hawîr,<br />Biteqim ji bin,<br />Dîsa wek mêra,<br />Bikevin çiya.<br />Naxwazim bimrim,<br />Dixwazim bigrim.<br />Kurdistana xwe<br />Axa Mîdîya,<br />Kîme ez?<br />Kawey hesinkar bav û kalê min,<br />Perçiqand serê zehakê dijmin.<br />Ji gerdena Kurd<br />Wî şikand zencîr,<br />Serê me parast,<br />Ji birîn û şûr!<br />Roja hat kuştin xwînmijê dilsoz,<br />Goya dibêjin:-Ew roje nûroz...<br />Zivistan diçî,<br />Ew rojên ne xweş<br />Parêz dibî Kurd,<br />Ji dêwê zergeş.<br />Wesan dibêjî Zerdeştê rêzan,<br />Ehreman dişkê Hirmiz tê meydan!<br />Kîme ez?<br />Ez im ê çêkir ev cejn û nûroz,<br />Divê bistênim,<br />Wilo nemênim,<br />Bigrim tol û doz<br />Fermandar bim ez,<br />Li ser Kurdistan,<br />Bo min bimênin<br />Ev bax û bustan.<br />Ev şax û ev dest,<br />Rez û şînahî<br />Bigrim destê xwe,<br />Dilxweş û şahî.<br />Zana û xwenda,<br />Dezgevanên xurt<br />Vî warî bigrin,<br />Bikin ronahî,<br />Kîme ez?<br />Ez im ew Kardox Xaldêwê kevnar,<br />Ez im ew Mîtan, Nayrî û Sobar.<br />Ez im ew Lolo,<br />Kardox û Kudî,<br />Ez im Mad û Goş,<br />Horî û Gudî.<br />Ez im Kurmanc û Kelhor, Lor û Gor,<br />Ez im, ez Kurd im li jêr û li jor.<br />Çend hezar salin<br />Kurdistana min<br />Perçe perçe ma<br />Bindestê dijmin!<br />Kîme ez?<br />Îro ji Lor û Kelhor û Kurmanc<br />Ji dest xwe berdan ew text û ew tac,<br />Bûne olperest,<br />Bi tizbî û xişt.<br />Ta dijmin şikand<br />Li me ser û pişt.<br />Me dan bin lingan dewlet û hebûn,<br />Bûn dijminê hev perçe perçe bûn.<br />Ta ku Kurdistan,<br />Ta ku Kurdistan<br />Jar û perîşan<br />Ket e bin destan!<br />Kîme ez?<br />Ez im ew milet, ez im ejderha,<br />Ji xewa dîlî şiyar bûm niha.<br />Dixwazim wek mêr<br />Dixwazim wek şêr<br />Serê xwe hildim,<br />Çi ser bilindim.<br />Bi cîhan carek<br />Ez bidim zanîn,<br />….<br />Kurê Guhderz û Ferhad û Rustem,<br />Kurê Salar û şêrgoh û Deysem.<br />Bejin bilindim,<br />Wek dêw bilindim.<br />Ez dest dirêjim,<br />Serbest dibêjim.<br />Dixwazim bi lez<br />Gavan bavêjim!..<br />Kîme ez?<br />Ne xwînxwar im ez haştî xwaz im ez,<br />Serdarê meye gernas û nebez.<br />Em şer naxwazin,<br />Divên wekhevî,<br />Em paş ve naçin,<br />Dijmin direvî!..<br />Ji bo mirovan em tev dost û yar<br />Bijî Kurdistan, bimrî koledar!<br />Kîme ez? </span></span></span></span></blockquote><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'times new roman';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;">I hope it is clear enough now who we are!</span></span>Azadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4619266339375395902.post-82002762258024029332009-08-13T10:43:00.000-07:002009-08-13T10:44:14.650-07:00KURDISH QUESTION IS A VERY SIMPLE ONE!Here is why Ahmet Altan of <i>Taraf</i> thinks it is simple:<br />
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;"><b>RACE and RELIGION</b></span><br />
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<div class="MsoNormal"></div><div class="MsoNormal"></div><div class="MsoNormal">There are two ways to make someone accept the things that you do to him/her and don’t want those things to be done to you.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">You either deceive them, or suppress them.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">I don’t know a third way of doing this.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">The Turks do the things to the Kurds that they don’t want to be done to them.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">We tried to deceive them.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">They did not buy it.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">We tried to suppress them by force, with weapons and oppression.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">They did not let it.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">They rebelled 29 times (against us).<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">And their last rebellion has been going on for the last 25 years.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Many people died.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Actually, the problem is as complicated as it is said to be.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">The Kurds want to be treated the way the Turks are treated.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">It is that simple.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">As much as I can see, the problem is with us, the Turks.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">We don’t want to share (have the same) rights we have in this country with our “brother” Kurds that we want to deceive.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">The behavior that should be analyzed is our behavior, why do we reject having equal rights with the people that we call our “brothers”.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">What would happen if we were equal?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">What would go wrong if we did not name them “you are Turks” by force; support their rights to have education in their mother tongue? <o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">If we look at this problem from a religious point of view, maybe we will understand the Kurds better.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">If the Christians had had a bigger population than the Muslims and had written, “citizens of this country are called Christians” in the constitution, would the Muslims have accepted it?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">If it was said, “OK, you are Muslim, but your national identity is Christianity” would the Muslims have not rebelled?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Would they have said, “We are Christians” by force?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Don’t say, “Religion is different”.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">People’s races, traditions and cultures are as “sacred” as their religions and beliefs are.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">We are born with our race and religion.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">In fact, you could change your religion, you could encounter someone who was Muslim and converted to Christianity, and someone who was Christian and converted to Islam, but you cannot change your race.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">If we look at this from a religious person’s point of view, “race” is a characteristic that God gave to human beings without giving them, “the right to change it”.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">You cannot give up your race.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">You carry the characteristics of your race from birth to death.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Would you accept the treatment if you were being looked down upon as if you were inferior to the others and “insulted” because of a characteristic of you that “cannot be changed and cannot be given up”?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"></div><div class="MsoNormal"> You would not, nobody would.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">There is a race as Kurdish, and there is also a race as Turkish.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Lets first ask to the Muslims.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">“Why would someone who was created by God be treated differently from someone else who was also created by God?”<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Afterwards, lets ask to the nationalists who call themselves “leftists”.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">“Why would one of the two races that were created by nature have to accept the other one’s superiority?”<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">The problem is not with the Kurds who are asking for equality, because it is their right both in God’s and in humans’ eyes, the problem is the fact that we don’t accept to be “equal” with them.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">We don’t want to accept the ones that are not from our race, to be equal to us.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Is it not “racism”?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">This is both a sin and a shameful act.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Why do we try to suppress other human beings just because we have an army and we are more in numbers than they are?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Candidly, I don’t understand why we have so much difficulty in saying that, “The Kurds and the Turks are equal”.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">What is the logic behind saying, “The Kurds cannot have the rights that the Turks have”?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">The Turks are not superior to the Kurds; they are just more in numbers.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Did you not get angry when the Muslims in <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">Western Thrace, </b>and the Turks in Bulgaria were being suppressed because “their numbers were less” (in terms of population)?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Now, why do you do the same things to our ”brothers”?<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"> <o:p></o:p></b></div><div class="MsoNormal">Why do you let thousands of children die, and thousands of mothers suffer in pain because of this?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Why is it so difficult for you to accept equality?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">What does, “I can get education in my mother tongue, but you cannot, I could be associated with my own race, but you cannot” mean?<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">We are in an era, where people pride themselves on “what they do”, and not in an era where people pride themselves based on their race or religion, or see themselves superior to others because of their race or religion. Human beings are “individuals”, and the race and religion that they belong to only matter to them.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">We are still in race-fight.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">It should end now.<o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">It is enough that so many children have died because of this stupidity. <o:p></o:p></div><blockquote></blockquote>Azadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4619266339375395902.post-90585646036207247672009-05-02T00:53:00.000-07:002009-05-02T01:14:32.101-07:00HOW COULD THEY (THE KURDS) TRUST (THE TURKISH STATE)?<span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Etyen Mahçupyan has written a great article about why the Kurds should not trust the Turkish state, and also why the PKK should keep its arms, and never lay them down even if there is peace! There is nothing more for me to say, read the article and see by yourself why we should keep fighting no matter what. Here is the </span></span><a href="http://taraf.com.tr/makale/5307.htm"><span style="color: black;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">link</span></span></span></a><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> to the original page on <i>Taraf</i>, and here is the translation, the language might be a little heavy. OK, enough of talking, enjoy it </span></span><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">(Note:the words in </span></span><b><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">italics</span></span></b></i><b><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></i></b><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">are my own additions to clarify the meaning)</span></span></i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">:</span></span><br />
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">It has been known for a long time now that the Kurdish Question cannot be solved solely by words. Actually, old attitude of the state demonstrates that while saying “There are no Kurds”, Kurds were considered to be important at the same time. Moreover, this “There are no Kurds” rhetoric was not a way for not recognizing the existence of the Kurds, but rather a way to fight the Kurds. But, creating “fake realities” is one of the most commonly implemented tactics of the Republican regime. Because the Republican administration considered a “system in which differences could live together equally” as a threat, thus they saw the differences within the society of Turkey as “alien”, and treated them as if they were citizens of another country. Consequently, any step that aimed to give the rights of those different identities </span></span><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">(groups)</span></span></i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> back to them, or bring social equality and improve freedoms, was seen as a “compromise”. It was as if there was a conflict going on between the state, which represented the Turkish identity, and other different identities and the real aim of the state was to win this conflict.</span></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="text-align: left;"></div><blockquote><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"></span></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">When we look at the issue from this perspective, we see that “There are no Kurds” rhetoric has tactical/strategic purpose. The advantage of beginning from the rearmost </span></span><b><i><span style="font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">(such as “There are no Kurds”)</span></span></span></i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">would always be available in a possible negotiation process… In addition to this, when you manipulate the society in this direction, a psychological advantage comes along with it. This approach shows us that the attempt of a military coup—that is incorporated in the Ergenekon investigation—is not that “post modern”. Because the state in Turkey is very experienced in moving one part of the society in whichever direction it wants to… And the base for these </span></span><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">(manipulated)</span></span></i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> movements </span></span><b><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">– </span></span></b><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">contrary to the practices in the West—is the fact that the society is left ignorant and is intentionally misinformed </span></span><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">(about the realities on the ground)</span></span></i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">. </span></span><b><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></b></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="text-align: left;"></div><blockquote><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"></span></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">The societies in which the level of ignorance is regulated, sometimes there are very convenient conditions for “solutions” to big problems, and the state does not miss that kind of opportunity. To give a simple example, the Capital Tax was implemented in the years of WWII </span></span><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">(Turkish Capital Tax was aimed at the non-Muslim minorities of Turkey which impoverished them a lot)</span></span></i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">, or if we go further in the past, the Assyrian and Armenian Deportation coincided with the WWI… These kinds of cyclical situations allow each country to get further away from the international laws, and break these laws. The ones who commit these crimes get away with what they do, and the actions of those times are buried in the history with the excuse of “some things have happened at that time, but there was a war”.</span></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="text-align: left;"></div><blockquote><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"></span></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Thereby, regarding long–lasting problems that seem to be irresolvable, some big permanent steps are taken in favor of the state and consequently the Turkish identity… The ones who have the Turkish identity mostly don’t know of this special history and are not interested in it anyway. Most of them are happy with the ideological “information booklet” that the state provide them with, and continue their lives with the ignorance that is required by the citizenship. The small minority that objects to this is alienated/estranged and is forced to stay as if they are refugees, as a result of being blamed for a wide array of things that extends to being</span></span><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></i><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">(called)</span></span></i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> a traitor.</span></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="text-align: left;"></div><blockquote><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"></span></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">But there is the exact apposite situation for the others </span></span><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">(namely, non-Turks)</span></span></i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">. For instance, the non-Muslims know this “state history” very well and are able to preserve their identity </span></span><b><span style="font-weight: normal;"><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">(conscience)</span></span></i></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">partly by making this aforementioned history known. The same situation is applicable for the Kurds as well… So this bizarre situation comes to the forefront: “The more the Turks are inclined to forget, the more the Kurds are inclined to remember…”</span></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="text-align: left;"></div><blockquote><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"></span></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">On the other hand, the ones who are doing politics around/</span></span><b><span style="font-weight: normal;"><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">for</span></span></i></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">the identities that are opposed by the state know that there is an untrustworthy/unreliable belligerent opponent/</span></span><b><span style="font-weight: normal;"><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">foe</span></span></i></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">in front of them that looks for a cyclical situation</span></span><b><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span style="font-weight: normal;"><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">(a moment that the opponent is weakest to attack)</span></span></i></span></b><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">. Because of this, they also try to maximize their bargaining power. To be on an unequal level against the state and to live in a republican regime that does not allow freedom of expression links the bargaining power usually to being an armed group. Shortly, emergence of the PKK as an armed group implies the pursuit of being equal </span></span><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">(having equal power/authority)</span></span></i><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">with the state. On the other hand, PKK’s existence is very functional, because even from the perspective of the Kurds that do not support its actions, PKK is an element of bargaining/</span></span><b><span style="font-weight: normal;"><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">negotiation</span></span></i></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">against the state.</span></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="text-align: left;"></div><blockquote><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"></span></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">The ones who are talking about PKK’s disarmament are acting as if they are not aware of the history of the Republic of Turkey in the minds/memories of the Kurds. PKK could seriously lay down the arms, and they could genuinely want this, too… But it will not lay down arms as far as possible, because the Kurdish society does not trust the state. There is no guarantee that a more tyrannical regime will not be imposed upon the Kurds under the disguise of politicization of the PKK and there isn’t any state authority that can guarantee this. Because history has proven that these kinds of guarantees are </span></span><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">(never)</span></span></i><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">executed. </span></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="text-align: left;"></div><blockquote><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">This year is a hundredth anniversary of the Adana Massacre in 1909… An event that some want to see forgotten, and others that want to remember it. The reason behind the conflict that emerged right after the declaration of the second constitutional period was the attraction of the wealth of the Armenians. The events started in small scale but grew into an armed “interference”/</span></span><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">confrontation</span></span></i><i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span></i><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">quickly which killed a few people from both sides. The Armenians were stronger/more resistant than they were expected to be and because they did not trust the authorities they did not want to give in their weapons. In this situation, Parliament made a decision of disarmament and the delegation that was sent to the region persuaded the Armenians as well. The Armenians gave in their weapons… in the following days 30 thousand people were massacred…</span></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="text-align: left;"></div><blockquote><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Nowadays, you could explain to the Kurds what a “right” decision it would be if the PKK laid down the arms. As a matter of fact that is how they think, too. They know that peace can only be achieved in an environment where there are no weapons. But they also know the history of this region and they don’t trust the state. That is issue…</span></span><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
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<span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">So, you see why PKK should never give in the arms in their hands? Because it is our only guarantee!</span></span>Azadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4619266339375395902.post-11483559620172874472009-04-29T15:11:00.000-07:002009-04-29T15:11:15.948-07:00AZADÎ WILL COME SOONER OR LATER!So, our hevals have been doing some minor harm to the enemy. First <a href="http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/04/2009425125629787559.htmlhttp://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/04/2009425125629787559.html">this</a>:<br />
<blockquote><span class="DetaildSuammary" id="Htmlphcontrol1">At least 11 Iranian police officers have been killed in separate clashes with armed groups in two of the country's western provinces, local media reports say.</span></blockquote>Those two provinces are in Eastern Kurdistan, in Kermanshah and Sanandaj. I am sure the number is much higher than they claim it to be, because we all know how the Psychological Warfare functions.<br />
Great job and Congratulations to our heroes at PJAK!<br />
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And today apparently the Turkish Army is most formidable army in the world. Or wait, is it? Hmm, well it appears as 10, yes TEN soldiers from this military have been killed by the hevals. And guess what, there is no casualty on the PKK's side! I guess we need to re-evaluate when we think of the Turkish Armed Forces being the most formidable one in the Middle East. It obviously seems to me that there is something fundamentally wrong with that statement. Well we all se that acts speak louder than mere useless words, right? And take a look at <a href="http://www.sofiaecho.com/2009/04/29/712282_nine-turkish-soldiers-die-in-ied-attack-in-southeastern-turkey">this</a>, too:<br />
<blockquote>According to CNN-Turk, 10 soldiers have been confirmed as killed, but other reports claim that the death toll was nine with two injured.</blockquote>I really think that it does not matter that much if the number is 9 or 10. The funny thing is that TSK has all the weapons in the world in their hands. And I mean it when I say they have all the weapons in the world. Just think about how much of their GDP actually goes to the military. I am not talking about the amount they say in their papers, but rather the amount that nobody actually knows because it is "Gizli Ödenek" or "Slush Fund" as it is a security matter thus, cannot be made public. Only god knows how much it is.<br />
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I intentionally quoted the sources that would be considered fair, even though I dont believe so because we all know everyone in this world is closer to the Turkish Government than they are to the facts and truth. They just cony and paste what the Turkish media writes, which is dictated by their all powerful, all knowing military! Maybe not that powerful, huh?<br />
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Anyway, I think they will see more of this as long as they continue with arrests of innocent DTP officials, but even more important than that as long as they continue to kill our little 13-14 year-old kids, beat them with their weapons, put them in come and kick them on top of all that inhumanity, and beat our beautiful mothers and drag them by pulling their hair, etc.<br />
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They should know this very well; the Kurdish people is ready for both peace and war, as Murat Karayilan has stated again in his last interview with Al-Jazeera. <a href="http://hevallo.blogspot.com/2009/04/questions-of-war-and-peace.html">Hevallo</a> has the video of the interview, take a look at it.<br />
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We prefer PEACE, but if they are going to try to kill us, they should know that we will be fighting until the last drop of our blood against the blood-thirst animals!<br />
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Long Live Gelê Kurd û Kurdistan!<br />
Long Live Kurdish People and Kurdistan!Azadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4619266339375395902.post-66347173530713745562009-04-28T03:58:00.000-07:002010-04-26T09:21:03.758-07:00Ahmet Türk's Interview With Taraf Daily<span style="font-family: georgia; font-size: medium;">Here is the full translation of the </span><a href="http://taraf.com.tr/makale/5240.htm" style="font-family: georgia;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="color: black;">interview</span></span></a><span style="font-family: georgia; font-size: medium;"> Ahmet Türk had with Nese Düzel of Taraf Daily.</span><br />
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<blockquote style="font-family: georgia;"><div class="MsoNormal"></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;">Ahmet Türk: “THE OPERATIONS WILL NOT PREVENT THE (KURDISH) CONFERENCE FROM TAKING PLACE”<br />
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</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;">Why Ahmet Türk?<br />
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</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;">-</span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">There actually was a positive atmosphere. Arrangements for the Kurdish Conference that was, for the first time, going to bring the representative of the Kurds from all around Middle East, were being made, and it was thought/hoped this conference would bring a comprehensive solution to the Kurdish Question, and that it would be a first step towards disarmament of the PKK. Suddenly the arrest of the DTP officials came. 51 DTP officials were arrested. But the real striking development came after these arrests. One Special Forces police knocked out a 14 year-old kid, who was among a group of small kids that were protesting in a rural area, to the ground and started to hit his head with the butt of his weapon over and over again, and kicked him as much as he could. It was as if someone intentionally wanted to blow up the peace atmosphere. With the Co-chair of Democratic Society Party Ahmet Türk we talked about how he saw these events. We asked questions about the future of the Kurdish Conference that is supposed to be taking place in Hewlêr (Erbil) and hosted by Barzani, whether DTP was going to attend the conference or not, whether PKK was invited or not, how to avoid the violence that is being escalated by some ones, and whether there will be some reciprocal gestures to soften the current atmosphere to Ahmet Türk.<br />
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</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;">NEŞE DÜZEL: There is a big operation going on against the DTP officials. What do you think about timing of this operation? </span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AHMET TÜRK: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">We expected some different developments in Turkey after the victory of the DTP on the local elections. We thought, “Either the high percentage we received will not be tolerated and the atmosphere would get more intense, or people’s support to the DTP will be accepted and the logic for solving the Kurdish Question will develop”. The first anticipation came true, the fact that DTP doubled its vote and became first party in the Kurdish Area in the 29 March local elections was not tolerated and the operations started.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND:</span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"> </span><b><span style="font-size: medium;">Who are the ones that did not tolerate the election results?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT:</span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"> At the forefront there is the political power (AKP). But it is not an operation that the government developed by itself. Politics are warded/under custody in Turkey. When the subject is the Kurdish Questions, AKP and the ones who ward the politics in Turkey come to an agreement on continuity of the 80 years-old policy of irresolution that halts the solution of the problem through democratic and peaceful means. After all we know that AKP was not shut down because they accepted such an agreement.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Are you saying that the operation against the DTP officials is just a result of the local elections?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT:</span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"> That is the first reason. The second reason is PKK’s statement after the elections. PKK stated this: “Kurdish people supported DTP in the elections. We value this support. To open the road for the peaceful solution we will silence (Ceasefire) the weapons until June 1</span><sup><span style="font-size: medium;">st</span></sup><span style="font-size: medium;">”. They also hinted that if there was any positive development that they will extend the ceasefire. This is it. The ones are getting richer from this… the warlords got worried. Because they know that if the Kurdish Question is resolved by democratic means, Turkey’s EU process will accelerate and they will lose power. The ones opposing to the peaceful solution of the problem, stepped in. The third reason for the operation against DTP is …</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Yes, what is it?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT:</span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"> The possibility of peace in the Kurdish region. The Kurds live in four countries Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria in the Middle East. Kurdish politicians of all four parts are in search for reaching a common decision of what the demands of the Kurdish people are, and to start the peace period in this region. This also disturbed the state. To stop all of these peaceful developments it attacked the DTP.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: PKK ended its ceasefire because of this operation; do you think it is the right decision to end the ceasefire?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">PKK did not end the ceasefire. They made a statement on last Thursday saying, “ It is obvious that the state does not want solve the Kurdish Question. But we will honor our decision as we stated before until June 1</span><sup><span style="font-size: medium;">st</span></sup><span style="font-size: medium;">”.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Considering the operations will continue, do you think it is the right decision to end the ceasefire after June 1</span><sup><span style="font-size: medium;">st</span></sup><span style="font-size: medium;">?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">Our hope is that the ceasefire will continue. Kurdish Question cannot be solved with weapons. It can be solved with democracy. We never wanted the weapons to reappear in the agenda. We know that weapons cause suffering and tears. But we need to be realistic. To make peace requires political will and determination. If there is not a political power that wants peace and believes in peace there cannot be a one-sided solution. The state needs to enter in the process of saying, “yes” to the demands for peace. Any person with a reasonable mind should not take any kind of role in resurgence of the time of the weapons. We are worried about this, which is why we are shouting, “lets sit down and solve this problem with mutual dialog”.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Who should be sitting mutually to solve the problem?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">There are sides of this problem. If the government is the executive organ and is there with public’s will then we will base ourselves on this and inform the government of our demands. But there is no dialog between the government and us.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Have you held any kind of meetings with the AKP government or the prime minister as DTP?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"> We cannot see the government when we look for it. We have asked them to have talks but this did not come to fruition. </span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: The Kurdish Conference is supposed to take place soon in Hewlêr (Erbil). Are these operations going to prevent the Kurdish Conference from taking place?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">They will not. The important thing here is the determination of the Kurds to hold such a joint conference together. Even though the DTP officials are being arrested, we will continue with our struggle to improve the democratic process and determination to create the dialog atmosphere. Of course we will not back down against the oppression that is inflicted upon us, while doing this. They should not think: “We have arrested 50 DTP officials, and this is the end of the DTP”. This part will not end. We will raise our voice and democratic objections against these arrests by our actions and statements.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: It is alleged that the DTP officials that were arrested have links to the PKK. Do you know anything about these allegations?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">Until this very day, when a Kurd asks for his identity, culture, language he is declared as a PKK member. Kurdish people’s demand for its identity, culture and language was considered as treason, as ethno-nationalism, as a movement to divide the country. Actually the state is telling us this: “Either you will shut up, or I will see you as PKK members and treat you as PKK members as well”.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: If it is proven that the DTP officials that were arrested actually have links to the PKK, will you still criticize these arrests?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">This question is meaningless. These people have been in the democratic politics since the HEP, the DEP, and they have never taken up arms and gone to the mountains. They are being arrested because of their opinions, and because of voicing the societal realities. For instance I say: “PKK’s ceasefire until June 1</span><sup><span style="font-size: medium;">st</span></sup><span style="font-size: medium;"> is an important step for peace”. Because I said such a thing I could be sued tomorrow and I could be tried for being a member of the PKK.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Why?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">Well, our arrested friends are not saying anything different from this. They also, like me, are making observations. And are trying to open/clear the road for democratic politics. Whether we like it or not PKK is a reality. After DTP was strengthened even more in the elections PKK stated: “ We should give a chance to the DTP as they have the support of the (Kurdish) people. We will give them this chance by silencing our weapons (ceasefire) until June 1</span><sup><span style="font-size: medium;">st</span></sup><span style="font-size: medium;">”. This was a positive decision. This was a chance. But the state immediately did the opposite. They tried to stop this decision by the operations (against the DTP)…</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Once you stated, “ We have the same support base as the PKK”. Is it possible that there are some links between the DTP officials and the PKK other than this common support base?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">We need to understand the developments in the world well. Say, some steps are taken for peace and we as the DTP had talks with the government and the state. At the end of these talks, will the state not ask us “OK, so if I do these, will the PKK lay down the arms”? Yes, it will. So then, the PKK is a reality and has a role in all these. If you consider identification of this role as having link with the PKK you cannot get any results. You have to take into account whether the PKK will accept the policies and projects for the peace.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: An armed group, whatever this group is, is a criminal against the laws. This is so in the world as well. Do you, as a parliamentarian, accept the fact that every armed group is criminal?</span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"> We need to clarify the term “terror”. We need to understand Al-Qaida or Hamas correctly. We need to understand the PKK, Mandela’s party, and old Palestinian Liberation Organization correctly.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: How should it be understood/interpreted?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT:</span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"> If a movement is receiving support from a people, and is acting to realize that people’s demands we need to put them in a different category. Because that movement is a terrorist movement according to some, but some people don’t look at it that way (but for some they are heroes). We need to see this reality. Hamas is also an armed group currently, but Prime Minister Erdogan goes, holds talks with them and asks them to play a role in the peace process. In the past, Mandela also served in the prison, he was sentenced as a terrorist, but when the conditions changed and there was an atmosphere for the dialog, nobody said “Mandela is a terrorist”. He received the (Nobel) peace prize. But did not his group also use weapons?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: You are being investigated because you said Abdullah Öcalan was similar to Mandela…</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">I am saying this in terms of processes. Otherwise I don’t thin anyone is similar another one. And nobody needs to be similar to someone else. But the historic process functions like this. The conditions are set up, and the talks take place. We can give IRA as an example.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Are you saying that in the end they will have to talk to Öcalan?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT:</span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"> Öcalan does not have such a demand. He does not say, “If you don’t talk to me, it won’t happen”. He says: “I believe in peace, and want peace. This problem cannot be solved with the weapons anymore. Talk to me so that I can contribute in the peace process”. And he points to the Kurds, to the NGOs and the DTP as the address to which they should be going to hold the peace talks.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Was the DTP invited to the Kurdish Conference in Hewlêr (Erbil)?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"> Of course… Since this idea was developed we have been holding talks. We said that: “All the Kurds should attend this conference. If one side does not attend, this conference will be incomplete”.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Is the PKK included within this?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">Of course. Everybody should attend. In the end it is the PKK that has the weapons in their hands. It is the PKK that is being discussed. All of the policies that are developed and all of the events taking place are based on it. When you exclude it, what is the point of holding that conference then?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Has the PKK been invited to this conference? Do you have any information related to this?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">I don’t know. This conference is still in the process of talks.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: If the PKK does not get invited, will the DTP attend the conference?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">We will take our stance based on its seriousness. We will look at how this conference will be structured and how much it will be based on the solutions to the problem. Why would we attend an ineffective/vain conference? It should be an effective conference where one could reach some conclusions.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">NG: Will a conference without the PKK be ineffective?</span><br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">AT:</span> Of course, it would be lacking.<br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">NG: What kind of conclusions are you expecting to reach from the Kurdish Conference that will aim to disarm the PKK?</span><br />
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AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"> It is said: “We are holding the conference to disarm the PKK. That is what Talabani says also. And it draws criticism from the Kurdish people for not conveying the demands of the Kurdish people to the AKP government. Because you cannot hold a conference just to disarm a group. Then, they would say: “Did I go to the mountains to lay down my arms”. Lets speak openly/be honest. Naturally, our main demand also is to create a world without the arms. But if there is not a project that will grant/meet the demands of the Kurdish people for its identity, culture and right to receive education in Kurdish, and decentralization in government, this will be in vain from the beginning. The important issue here is that the demands of the Kurdish people are met. Even if it cannot be done in one day, the preparations could be made. There are many examples of this in the world. For instance, there is the case of South Africa. How was the problem resolved, who were the intermediaries, how was peace achieved?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Which solution case are you taking as an example from the world?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">None of the problems seems exactly alike, but in the end everywhere in the world in order to achieve peace and solution, the preparations have been made, the sides have discussed the issue and a will for peace has been formed. The common thing everywhere is that, the governments have acted with the aim of “ I will save my people and my country from this chaos” to bring the peace in a determined fashion.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Do you have a hope for peace?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">We have never lost our hope for peace and we never will. Without protecting this hope for peace, we cannot do politics anyway. We say: “Do not continue with the strategy of denial and annihilation. Peace, if not today, one day will certainly arrive. Kurdish people’s cultural and identity rights will definitely be granted. Within the territorial integrity of the Republic of Turkey an environment of equality will be created. Lets develop our democracy as soon as possible”. For the last operations indicate that there are some who are determined to prevent the democratic solution from taking place.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: What should be done to solve the Kurdish Question within a peaceful framework?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">We are very clear and open about this subject. The (identity) rights of the Kurdish people should be guaranteed and put in the constitution. A new constitution should be prepared and this constitution should be written in a manner that accepts the differences as richness. We also are citizens of the Republic of Turkey. The Kurdish citizens should be granted whatever rights the Turkish citizens have. Within the framework of the Democratic Autonomy Project, regional governments should be strengthened/supported and regions based on their needs should be able to make decisions about their economic, social and educational matter. The schools that teach in Kurdish should be opened. For instance they show TRT6 (</span><span style="font-size: medium;">Ş</span><span style="font-size: medium;">e</span><span style="font-size: medium;">ş) as a development.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Is it not a development?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"> But the Kurds cannot determine the programs of TRT6. I actually asked in England. There are three million Welsh people. They have to learn Welsh in Wales and it is obligatory. They told me that: “ We are so much assimilated that only 5% of our population could speak Welsh. But now it is 20%. And among the young generation it is 40%”. English government distributes 120 million pounds every year to private television channels to support the improvement of the Welsh culture. This is a recognition and protection of a right. TRT6 is, on the other hand, abuse of a right. These are what we want…</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: If these conditions are prepared will the PKK lay down its arms?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"> There is not a difference between what we say and what they say. The demands are almost the same. These are Kurdish people’s general demands. I have to abide by the demands of the Kurdish people. So does the PKK.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Under what conditions/circumstances will the PKK lay down its arms in your opinion?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">The state has to be open and transparent. Once you bring them down from the mountains, are you going to imprison them or are you going to put them among the society and open the way of the democratic politics for them? These issues should be openly discussed.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Are there differences in the points of view between Barzani and the DTP?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">We are politicians that live in separate countries. Every country’s conditions and demands are different. If I were in Iraq today, I would ask for federation. Because, the Kurds of Iraq were part of the Ottoman Empire. Without internalizing the situation they were brought together with the Arabs, and they never came together. The situation in Turkey is different. The Kurds and the Turks have a chance of living together. Because, they really have been living together for a thousand years. As a result, we are not asking for federation in Turkey. We defend the concept of a democratic autonomous government. We want to empower the regional administrations/governments. </span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: What will the DTP offer to enable the peace?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">This should be understood by now. The Kurds are not in search of secession from Turkey. The Kurds want to solve this problem on the basis of equal rights with respect to the territorial integrity of the Republic of Turkey. If it is believed that this is what the Kurds want, solving the problem is not that hard. Because this is where the problem arises. Since the foundation of the nation-state the Kurds are seen as the potential danger. Some people should realize that the Kurds do not want to divide this country and get rid of this idea and their fears based upon this.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Do you think that it is possible to make some reciprocal gestures to soften the atmosphere until a permanent peace is achieved?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"> There is need for this. Gestures should certainly be made to bring out the sincerity for peace and solution.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Can the PKK order its militants out of border as a gesture?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;"> Of course… If they know that there is a serious effort for peace, and that they will not be trapped why not? First, an atmosphere of trust should be developed. These things were done in the past and during pull out 300-400 militants/guerillas of the PKK were killed. In addition to that in the past a peace group came. Following that other groups were also going to come but when the ones that came in were sentenced to 15-20 years it ended there.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: What should the Turkish and Kurdish politicians do in order to put the Kurds and the Turks into a peace atmosphere?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">The Turkish democrats have an important duty in order to stop the rising nationalist perceptions. Today, the Turkish intellectuals should support the efforts of the DTP to solve the Kurdish Question in Turkey within democracy and with respect to the territorial integrity of Turkey and they should spread this belief and trust to the people, the way Sartre and French intellectuals opposed to invasion of Algeria in France in the past.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Don’t the Kurds want to secede and found their own country?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">Some might want this, but the politicians have to think about the societal realities, and understand how much harm ethno-nationalism causes to peoples in today’s world. We are against the concept of nation-state and are for the “democratic-state”. We do not have the right to make peoples kill each other by bringing nationalism to the forefront in a world where countries form unions, and EU is developed.</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
ND: Do you think that the nation-state is a very bloody process?</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><b><span style="font-size: medium;"><br />
AT: </span></b><span style="font-size: medium;">Yes. In today’s World we don’t need to found nation-state. There is need for equal citizenship, and democratic state. But some people do not want change in this country. They want to keep the status quo. Because those some people will lose their ward on the politics when the Kurdish Question is resolved and Turkey is more democratic. </span><span style="font-size: medium;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"></div></blockquote>Azadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4619266339375395902.post-86160744729490189842009-04-26T01:06:00.000-07:002009-04-26T01:08:58.778-07:00Another Abuse of the Kurdish Children ...<span class="Apple-style-span" style=" ;font-family:Times;"><div style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 3px; padding-right: 3px; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 3px; width: auto; font: normal normal normal 100%/normal Georgia, serif; text-align: left; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"></span><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><div style="text-align: justify; ">The Turkish government is completely out of control, they are running around like mad cows. We all know how fascist, brutal, oppressive, and undemocratic the laws and constitution of Turkey are. But one would expect that at least they would respect their own rules, that they have written to oppress all the others other than the Turks, right? Well, no should not expect such a thing when the matter has to do with Turkey, as there is no logic, order or anything of that nature to their actions. MAD COWS! you never know what they will do next.<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"></span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';">Not only <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';">are they disrespecting their own laws, by putting Kurdish kids at the ages of 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, and 17 on trial and imprisoning them for just passing by a protest, or throwing stones at the Turkish Fascist Police Forces, but they also are completely undermining international conventions and treaties that they are signatories of. Who cares, right? Cuneyt Ertus case is still in the minds, watch the video </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ENIwySnfNM"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#000000;">here</span></a></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"> to refresh you memory.</span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';">Yesterday, April 23rd, there were protests going on everywhere in Kurdistan against unjust arrest of the DTP politicians, and here is what AP says happened in Colemêrg (Hekkari)<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';">"</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';">An official says the government has launched a probe into the security forces after a 12-year-old boy was severely beaten during a demonstration by Kurds in southeast Turkey.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';">Video footage of the protest showed an official in military fatigues beating the boy in the head with a truncheon and then kicking him as he lay on the ground.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';">The state-run news agency says four people were detained and three protesters were injured in Thursday's demonstration in the mainly Kurdish city of Hakkari. The demonstrators barricaded roads and threw stones at police to denounce the detention last week of more than 200 Kurds in a nationwide police crackdown.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';">Hakkari's governor, Muammer Turker, says the government immediately launched an investigation into officials involved."</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';">Of course we all know what happens when they launch investigations, dont we? As if it is not that same governor, police chief, army officer, politician, prime minister Kerdogan who is ordering these animals to beat our innocent kids, and mothers, indiscriminately and to prosecute and imprison them!!!<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';">Here is the </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><a href="http://video.ntvmsnbc.com/Default.aspx?QueryStringValue=585858585858313330312975727765305364308635333065305364303330334565516267144011803439807480726531333031"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:#000000;">link</span></a></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"> to the video (I could not upload for some reason, sorry!) where a terrorist turkish police is beating a 12 years old little Kurdish boy. It is understandable as they only can beat our little kids, because they know they can never harm our heros, </span></span><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';">hevals</span></span></i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';">, in the mountains so this is how they take their revenge from Kurdish people.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';">I think everybody should see this over and over again to realize how inhumane, brutal, ugly, dishonorable, terrorist, and fascist the turkish government, military, and police are! And this should make us come to our senses and fight with all our power against this fascist regime until we get what belongs to us!</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';">And good job to the DTP members who spent 24 hours in the Parliament in protest for the arrest of its branch heads all around Turkey, for not attending the 23 April Children's Celebration Ceremony. That is what we expect from them! Not to attend the Children's Celebration on a day when Kurdish children are being beaten by the merciless turkish police so hard that one of the Kurdish children is in coma now in Wan. It is also a good way to draw the attention to the issue, and is a good example of Civil Disobedience.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Georgia;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:'lucida grande';">Slowly, slowly they will see us, they will have to see us, we shall not give the option of not to! Then we will be in a better position among our people, in Turkey and in the world, too!</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: justify; "><blockquote></blockquote><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "></span></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "></span></span></div></span></div></span>Azadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4619266339375395902.post-34921074197319810822009-04-18T22:33:00.000-07:002009-04-18T23:18:13.971-07:00Attacking DTP? Continue with it!<span style="font-style: italic;"><span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">Biji</span> Kurdistan, <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1">bimri</span> <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2">koledar</span>!</span>, Long live Kurdistan, death to the slaver.<br /><br />One day, and that day is getting closer and closer, the Kurds will break the chains of this tyranny that have been inflicted upon them by the oppressors that have not only divided their country, but also taken their honor from their hands!<br /><br />They should continue what they are doing! Yes, they should continue arresting members of the DTP branches in all around Turkey and Kurdistan. Please, arrest more people, please torture us more and more, do it until you cannot move your dirty hands because of fatigue anymore.<br /><br />You know it very well; we will not be diminished by your torture, by your chemical weapons, by your expensive F-16s, by your <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3">UAVs</span>, and all other shit that you are using on us. On the contrary we increase by thousands, by tens of thousands, and soon by millions!<br /><br />We will, soon, be your nightmares! We promise, that we will turn the cities you live in into hell! We shall not let you even breathe! We shall avenge for every single slap, for every strand of hair that you have pulled off of our mothers hair in torture, for every dirty-ugly-fascist look you have given us! We shall do these! And we shall not let you die, as you have done to us, we shall let you suffer every second, every minute, every hour, every day until you beg for death! But no fucking around! Death is not that cheap!<br /><br /><span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4">AKP</span>, <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5">Ergenekon</span>, All <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6">Fethullahcilar</span>, All the fascists in Kurdistan, we promise to you from now on that we will not let you even peek your heads from the doors, the windows of the places you live in, in Kurdistan. As we are humans, unlike you animals, we give you one last chance. GET THE FUCK <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7">OUT</span> OF OUR HOMELAND-<span style="font-size:130%;">KURDISTAN</span>, now!<br /><br />You will regret what you are doing to us! You will regret very badly! You will see what the Kurds are capable of doing <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8">Katil</span> <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9">Kerdogan</span> when you inflict this terror upon them. The Kurds of the mountains have never given up their honor, their identity, what makes you think by these stupid actions you will scare them and they will give up everything they have been fighting for, for years now! No no no, you are making a big mistake <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10">Kerdogan</span>, this time you will hit the rock, and it will be very hard and harsh for your beautiful and sensitive skin. You know what <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11">Kerdogan</span>, the Kurds in the mountains have rough skin, and when you touch it you regret it. Not only have you touched their skins, but also you have been trying to rape those skins!<br /><br />YOU SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN! NEITHER SHALL YOUR FASCIST, UGLY, CORRUPT, FUCKED UP COUNTRY WITH ITS MILITARY!<br /><br />You will all kneel in front of us and beg for forgiveness like DOGS, and I <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12">dont</span> know if my honorable, brave, innocent, and beautiful Kurdish Mothers will forgive you then! As for myself, I will not forgive any of you for what you have been doing to us over centuries!<br /><br />The Kurds are coming, they are like fire, when you approach them friendly they warm you, when you attack them they burn you! AND YOU WILL BURN DOGS! and you will ask for hell when you see the fire of the Kurds, I assure you of that!<br /><br />I would have never used such a language normally, but they <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13">dont</span> seem to be understanding what we are talking about when we use a civilized language. So we shall speak the language that they understand!<br /><br />They still think the Kurd is the Kurd of old days, without a conscience, without the pen and the weapon! They are wrong, I am telling you! We are coming from all directions! Our <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14">guerillas</span> with their <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15">Keleshes</span> in their hands, and our lawyers/politicians/intellectuals with pens in their hands.<br />The Kurd is not the old Kurd; the Kurd is intelligent, intellectual, brave, and <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16">figting</span> Kurd now! You better get used to it and stop this outrage now, or else we will show it to you how it is done in a much better way so that you idiots can understand!<br /><br />Enough is enough, <span style="font-style: italic;"><span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17">Êdî</span> <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18">Bes</span> e</span>!Azadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4619266339375395902.post-88347625472217981882009-04-07T19:27:00.000-07:002009-04-08T13:39:03.289-07:00Long Live ROJ TV-Dengê Gelê Kurd!So, here we go again! Apparently, Rasmussen, ex-prime minister of Denmark, promised to the Turks that he will shot down ROJ TV in exchange for the Turks to remove their objections to his candidacy to become the new secretary-general of NATO. And he now is the secretary-general of NATO. Meaning that the Turks believed him, or took his word seriously, and finally ended their blockade on his candidacy after making so much noise about it, and making all the EU presidents beg them to say yes to his candidacy! Berlusconi was late to the opening of the bridge that symbolized the unity of Europe, because he was trying to convince Erdogan to say yes. We all know how hard he could be. After all he is from Kasimpasha, right?<br /><br />Anyway, at the end of the day with Obama, or Resho, and Abdullah Gul getting involved it was resolved somehow. But as I mentioned before, the Turks accepted only after receiving promises on the closure of ROJ TV, and some important posts in NATO be allocated to the Turks. I think they are smart! They made whole Europe beg them, go after them, kiss their ass basically. I wish Europe could have understood a little better what Turkey or Turks are by now. But wishful thinking is of no avail, as we Kurds know it too well.<br /><br />OK, so lets talk about closure of the ROJ TV. Will it happen, or can it happen? Yes, it can happen, and now it is more likely, because according to the Turkish Media Obama or Resho (actually I will just call him Resho from now on: it is cute), himself has said that he will take the matters into his hands. We should be scared now! President of the United States of America, the most powerful country in the world, has promised something. Of course he will keep his promise. But you know what? I am doubtful about that, as I am equally doubtful about Obama promising such a thing.<br /><br />By the way, I know Mizgîn at <a href="http://rastibini.blogspot.com/">Rastî</a> has commented about Resho's speech as "same shit. different day.", and though I mostly agree with this comment, I have to say that he was/is different from others. Now will that difference in his personality change anything in the world? That I don't know and I don't think so. But he did use the word "KURD" in the Turkish Parliament. That is something in my understanding. He talked about giving more rights to the Kurds and other minorities withing Turkey. That is something. It is not something BIG, but is nonetheless is important. He is president of the USA, so we cannot expect him to be groundbreaking when the matter is the Kurds or the PKK.<br /><br />They cannot shut down ROJ, they think they can; it is because they don't know what ROJ means.<br />Shutting down ROJ means darkening the day, obscuring the sun. Do they really think they can do that? Hodri meydan canakam! If they close it, we will open another one. Let them show us and the world how fucked up they and their corrupt and meaningless "democracy" are. As that is the only thing it would entail.<br /><br />While we talk about this, Imdat Yilmaz, manager of the ROJ has already defied the Danish authorities by <a href="http://kurdistan-post.com/News-file-article-sid-30122.html">saying</a> that they cannot shut down the ROJ. On the other hand, prosecuting judge from Denmark Liselotte Nilas has already <a href="http://www.yeniozgurpolitika.org/?bolum=haber&hid=45347">stated</a> that it is within their jurisdiction to shut down ROJ or not, and that he has not felt any pressure from anyone to shut down the ROJ.<br /><br />So lets wait together and see what happens!<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:x-small;" ></span></span>Azadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4619266339375395902.post-8241704463151506942009-04-04T00:40:00.000-07:002009-04-04T01:07:44.054-07:00Congratulations DTP!After a very rigorous period of campaigning and fighting against all odds the DTP (Democratic Society Party or Partiya Civaka Demokratik) managed to get most votes in 8 cities of Kurdistan and consequently mayoralties which are: Amed (Diyarbekir), Êlih(Batman), Sêrt(Siirt), Colemêrg(Hekkari), Shirnex(Shirnak), Wan(Van), Idir(Igdir), and Dêrsim(Tunceli).<br /><br />When one thinks about what kind of difficulties the DTP had to fight in order to win in these cities, one appreciates their success much more. It is a success that has been won on the lives of so many martyrs of Kurdistan, it is a success that has been won on the tortures and imprisonment of so many young kids, it is a success that has been won on tortures, destruction of thousands of villages, burning forests, shortly many big sacrifices. Thus it deserves to be celebrated joyously, and DTP should be congratulated once again for what they accomplished.<br /><br />It is not an easy thing to win those 8 cities when all of the political parties in Turkey are united against you to crush you, it is not easy when all of the bureaucrats including governors are all working against you; it is not easy especially when the bloody korucus(village guards) and soldiers and the police hold a gun on the voters' necks and threatens to kill them if they vote for the DTP. That is why they should be congratulated over an over again. Not only the DTP politicians and activists but also the Kurdish people as a whole should be congratulated for their courageous work, because if it was not for their bravery and sacrifices this would have happened.<br /><br />We have been hearing from the news, and by that I dont mean the sold out/corrupt/fascist media of Turkey or Dogan, but rather real and honest news agencies/papers that a lot of the votes that were cast for the DTP were either burnt, thrown away or counted for other parties, as it is the case in Chewlik(Bingol) for instance. And in Agiri(Agri), election council of the city has repeatedly rejected the objections of the DTP of the vote fraud. And they are not accepting to recount the votes, because they know if they do that the DTP will most likely win there, too.<br /><br />Agiri, Chewlik, Mush, Mêrdin(Mardin), and Bilis(Bitlis) also should have been won. But I am not blaming the DTP for it, as I know the have tried their best to win. And probably DTP would have won in those cities as well if the deep-state or the superficial and corrupt state did not cast shadows on the voting and counting procedure. In other words, if they did not steal the vote that were cast for the DTP.<br /><br />Even then, what the DTP has got is a big success and a big blow at the face of all of the system parties and Turkish government and military that were all united against the Kurds and their righteous representatives. They all hate each other AKP, CHP, MHP, military, bureaucracy, but when it comes to the Kurds they all unite immediately because they hate us the Kurds that much that they undermine their hatreds or differences. I think this we should take a lesson from as the Kurds.<br /><br />We should unite around our commonalities, and not be divided based on our small differences or small and temporary interests. We should show them that we are the Kurds, and proud of being Kurds and that they will never ever be able to finish us as for every one of us that they take there will be ten more waiting in line.<br /><br />I think now the international arena, the EU and the USA should understand this very clearly; the only legitimate representative of the Kurds is the DTP, not AKP or any other entity. And consequently show the respect and due attention to the DTP immediately!Azadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4619266339375395902.post-11101331066354521932008-10-05T21:01:00.000-07:002008-10-05T21:17:59.089-07:00What is happening in Western Turkey?After a long time, I think it is time for starting again. Sorry for the long time that I was absent, I had a lot of things that needed urgent care, that is why I could not post, but now I am settled once again I can start writing regularly again.<br /><br />For the people who is reading this blog, I am sure that you are following what is going on in Turkey and Kurdistan. As recent as two days ago PKK attacked Belezê garrison and killed 15 soldiers, there are a lot of wounded soldiers too, and 9 PKK guerillas died in this clash as well. You already know that there have been and there are many cases of lynchings against the Kurds, in the Western parts of Turkey where a big population of the Kurds live. Most of the Kurds who live in those cities, excluding the Kurds of Anatolia that mainly live in Konya-Ankara region who have been living there for over centuries now, were the people whose villages were burnt down and were forced to leave their homes, villages, properties, loved ones behind and start a new and very hard life in these prejudiced and almost fascist cities of the Western Turkey.<br /><br />I personally think that the true nature of the Turkish fascism/racism is coming out with these lynchings of the Kurds that by now have become almost normal and accepted events/incidents in the Western cities of Turkey.<br /><br />I have translated an article that was written by Rasim Ozan Kutahyali and published by Taraf daily newspaper. Here is the <a href="http://www.taraf.com.tr/yazar.asp?mid=2146">link</a> to the Turkish version of it. I dont feel like adding anything; this person I think draws a very through picture of what is happening in Turkey. I wil try to translate the following article asap and publish it here as well. Here goes the article:<br /><br /><blockquote></blockquote>"Are We Going Towards a Civil War?<br /><blockquote></blockquote>The Ayvalik/Altinova incident is very important…<br /><br />You might have read from the newspapers, A Turkish youngster parks his car in front of a Kurdish Shopkeeper, listening to the national anthem/songs… After this the Kurdish shopkeeper drives his car through this youngster and his family’s place at full speed… Two brothers are lying in blood on the ground and die… The rest is obvious…<br /><br />A complete indignation… According to the eyewitnesses tens of thousands of people gather together… “Altinova is ours, and will remain ours”, “We don’t want the Kurds here”, “Kurds out, out!” are the cheers that they scream while attacking at the workplaces and houses of the Kurds… Attempts to burn down the houses and cars that belong to the Kurds… Turkish flags everywhere and a complete amuck state… The Kurds leave the town for a time… With the timely intervention of the security forces the de facto confrontation is prevented… the rage is still in the air…<br /><br />Ethnic tautness is not an exception.<br /><br />I don’t think that the terrifying situation above, the societal psychology is an exception… This is not an exceptional incident that is caused by provocation… At this point in this country there are certain places where situation is very suitable for an ethnic provocation… <br /><br />Lets first all accept this fact… The Kurdish Problems is going beyond being a political problem, and unfortunately it is becoming a societal problem…<br /><br />This problem existed only as a problem between the government and the Kurdish people… Turkish government mentality always denied the existence of the Kurds along with very strict security measures… Every Kurd was a potential criminal in the eyes of the government…<br /><br />This immoral policy brought the Kurds closer to the PKK… As the DTP politicians say PKK did not create this problem, but PKK is a result of this problem…<br /><br />But this confrontation between the government and the Kurds did not have an equal correspondence in the society… There was not a serious problem between the Turks and the Kurds… There was not a relationship of hundreds of years f distrust between them… With the saying that is used so often, they had given daughters (in-law) to each other for centuries… Both peoples had a common cultural ground and a common spiritual language…<br /><br />As a result of the forced immigration that was implemented upon the Kurds by the government, many Kurdish families settled in the rich South and West parts of the country… They started a life struggle there… While there were clashes in the eastern part of the country, there was not a problem between the Kurdish people who migrated to west and south and the Turkish people living in these places… One could expect exclusionist acts from the powerful Turkish people while the government is fighting the Kurds… It did not happen, because the Kurdo-phobia that existed in the government, did not exist among the Turkish people in essence… the Turks did not have such a mental inheritance from their families…<br /><br />As the years passed by this started to change… the struggle to gain from the economic pie turned into an ethnic translation over time… If there was a commercial disagreement between two Turks the problem became personal, but the commercial disagreements between the Turk and the Kurd surpassed the personalization, and was described on the basis of ethnicity…<br /><br />With the secularization ethnic hatred increases.<br /><br />On the other hand, in places where the lifestyle and worldview was more secular the probability of an ethnic tautness emerged as clear-cut facts… As I have mentioned before there was a spiritual ground that the Turks and the Kurds share… There is a common tie that is created on the basis of Islam… This makes it possible to have coalescence/togetherness above ethnicities, soften the disagreements…<br /><br />In the sociological process of secularization these symbols and values are eroded away… If the secularized society cannot create a common moral ground around citizenship, it ignites the conflicting politicization of the ethnic identities, we should know this well…<br /><br />We have lived this in Turkey and are living it now… Anybody who knows a little bit of sociology understands what a baloney is Islamification words/concerns… This country is becoming a more modern, and correspondingly more secular country… Modernization, unfortunately, on contrary to what many liberal and leftist intellectuals believe is not a one-sided solely positive process… It brings a lot of problems with itself… It provides a society with a chance of changing its cover completely, and transformation of its world-view… If a secular “civic” ground in this process does not replace the eroded traditional values, it can create a fascistic conflict environment…<br /><br />Turkey is not longer old Turkey… “Turk-Kurd are brothers” sentences do not make any sense for the new and secularized generations of the Turks and Kurds… On top of this dangerous ground, the government is making things worse by agitating the society…<br /><br />I will continue with this subject tomorrow, too."<br /><br /><blockquote></blockquote>Azadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4619266339375395902.post-86279536657246390862008-07-23T06:29:00.000-07:002008-07-23T08:07:40.724-07:00KURDISH QUESTION solved!I don’t know if you have heard of Altan Tan before, but he is a Kurd that has worked for Refah Partisi, and Hadep at one point, and now seems to be close to the AKP government. He is a mild Kurdish-rights defender and moderate Muslim. And he writes for Zaman daily, which is a newspaper that is owned by Fethullah Gulen like many other media outlets in Turkety. As you all probably know, Fethullah Gulen just recently was acquitted from a US court and now can even become citizen. That is not the extraordinary part about this man, who says that he is only a Muslim and nothing more, but in reality has a huge group of followers, and hundreds of schools all around the world, TV channels, Newspapers and many more things.<br /><br />The most important of all these is, without a doubt, the schools that he has founded in all around the world including South Kurdistan. And let me say that they have got the permission to build a university, too, in only Kurdistan part that is supposedly being governed by the Kurds. It is interesting enough to note that, in those schools that stretch from Japan, Russia, almost all Turkic countries in Asia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Africa, some European countries and even USA, all of the pupils learn not only English but also Turkish, they learn Turkish National Anthem, they all learn about Ataturl and how great he was, they all learn that Turkey is the best country in the world and that Turkish language is the most beautiful one, shortly and with a little bit of Islam of course.<br /><br />Now mind you, he says that his schools are not nationalistic but rather Islamic. But there is a huge controversy, if his schools are not nationalist, or I will even go further as to call it Fascist, why would the poor African children have to learn about the Turkish flag, Ataturk who executed all religious figures and almost banned religion and created a fascist state of Turkey, and Turkish national anthem. WHY? Why does he, or his servants don’t only teach the kids about Islam and other things but mostly about Turks and Turkishism?<br /><br />One more little thing and I will move on to my topic; Did you know that they hold “International Turkish Olimpycs” every year, and last year they held the 6th one with the participation of 110 countries from all around the globe, and highest ranking government officials such as ministers and bureaucrats etc. This is a new movement of Turkish Imperialism as my National Security once said. But he is saying it is all because of Islam, right?He, and all of his followers do, support Palestine against Israel, and how ruthless Israel is etc, but I have never ever heard one single word from him about the Kurdish Question or Kurdish people, not even once.<br /><br />A side note; Arabic is the second official language of Israel, and there are Arab Representatives in the Knesset. That is not to say there are not bad things happening to Arabs due to Israel-Palestinian conflict as those bad things happen to the Israelis(Jews), too. But lets compare the Kurdish Problem to the Palestinian one, and keep in mind that this guy is from Turkey and not Israel or Palestine, and he is from a place that is majority of the city is Kurdish, Erzurum.<br /><br />Well, enough of that, lets get back to Altan Tan, in his last two articles at Zaman, he is telling us how the Kurdish Problem could be solved. For the full articles in English go to <a href="http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=148135">here</a>, and <a href="http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=148192">here</a>. I will just quote some parts of his articles. Here is a piece from his first article;<br /><br /><blockquote>There are two reasons why a Kurdish state was not created in the Middle East in the 20th century:<br /><br />1- The Western imperialists did not see an independent Kurdish state as compatible with their interests. There are several reasons for this.<br /><br />2- The Kurds did not want to part ways with the Turks, with whom they have lived together for centuries.<br /><br />The vast majority of Kurds still object to the idea of a nation-state and a separate Kurdish state from Turkey. These objections may be divided into two parts:<br /><br />1- The idea of a nation-state and the nation-state model was fashionable in the 19th century. The nation-state became outdated in the 21st century. A wave of globalization has swept through the world. Information and culture recognize no boundaries, and the movement of goods cannot be prevented. <br /><br /> ….<br /><br />Instead of nation-states, regional unions and political and economic organizations like the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the European Union gain importance. In the current form of the world, it is commonly held that a delayed Kurdish nationalism would bring harm to Kurds rather than benefits. The Kurds desire to remain within a political organization consistent with the new global tendencies rather than trying a non-functional and outdated model.</blockquote><br /><br />Before going to the second part I want to object some of the things he says in this first part of why the Kurds will object to the idea of a nation-state.<br /><br />First of all, lets be honest, we don’t know if the Kurds want a nation-state or not, but one thing that we all know for sure is that; the Kurds do not want to live under this ruthless, inhumane, fascist regime of Turkey, or for that same reason in Syria, and Iran, too. The only way we could really learn what the Kurds really want is that if we hold a referendum, but a referendum that Kurdish people will be able to cast their true feelings and ideas; not under threat of the soldiers’ pistols pocking them from behind while casting their votes as has been the case as recent as the last elections in a lot of villages of Kurdistan. Either Cahsh village-guards, or the soldiers are the one to do this duty. So, we can’t know! One other thing that I know is, if there was such a referendum being held right now all of my parents, relatives and almost all of the Kurds that I know would vote for independence, so I don’t quite understand where he infers this conclusion from. Besides without a nation-state, or at least a federation that will give Kurds full rights, it is very hard if not impossible, to make Kurdish language that is most important thing that Kurds so far were fortunate enough to protect (even if auto-assimilation has sped up and we are losing it day-by-day now), pass it to future generations.<br /><br />Of course, this is applicable to the other parts of our culture. How are we going to preserve Kurdish language and culture without a systemized structure? How? Thus, this saying that nation-state is not fashionable enough now is not very valid to me. Lets see what else he says;<br /><br /><blockquote>2- The nation-state model does not fit the Middle East. The nation-state brought irresolution rather than solution to Middle Eastern communities because of the following reasons:<br /><br />…<br /><br />e. Marriages take place between those who share the same religion and sect without considering the lingual and racial difference. Integration between families is almost intact. It is estimated that the number of marriages between Turks and Kurds is over 1 million in Turkey alone.<br /></blockquote><br />We could agree with him on the fact that, nation-state did bring a lot of irresolution or rather disasters to the Middle East. But that itself is not strong enough argument to say for this reason Kurds don’t want their homeland; Kurdistan. It was only the Kurds happen to be a little behind in comparison to other peoples, but now they are aware of it, and at best chance they will declare their independence, too, just like any other honorable people.<br /><br />Marriages between Turks and Kurds, I guess there is such a fact, even if I don’t think that the number is as he says 1 million. Those marriages are left in the past, now the Kurds almost cannot get married with Turks because the Turkish side of the family the threatens their daughter or son with disowning them if they marry a Kurd, let alone other things. Turks, not all, but in general now hate Kurds. They don’t even become friends with them anymore let alone marrying them.<br /><br /><blockquote>f. There have been almost no ethnic wars between communities in the Middle East. The most important wars in the history were fought between Turks. These are the wars fought between Sultan Mehmet the Conqueror and the Akkoyunlu ruler Uzun Hasan, Yıldırım Bayezit and Uzbek Timurlane, Sultan Selim I and Safavid Shah Ismail. All these rulers were Turks. In addition, with the exception of Shah Ismail, all others were Sunni as well. The reason of the wars was the pursuit of power and influence.</blockquote><br /><br />So, then what is the name of the lynching campaign against the Kurds in all Turkish cities, especially in Sakarya, Ankara, Konya, Adana etc? That is not an ethnic conflict? Well then what is it?<br /><br />In his second article, he tells us why an ethnic-federation would not work in Turkey. Lets listen to him:<br /><br /><blockquote>The idea of an ethnic federation is not an ideal response to contemporary needs, just as the idea of recognizing a separate state or government model for every sect and language would not be appropriate.<br /><br />Moreover, an ethnic federation would not fit into Turkey's conditions for a number of reasons.<br /><br />About 60 percent of the Kurds living in Turkey live in western Turkey, in cities like İstanbul, Ankara, Izmir, Adana, Mersin and Bursa. In Syria, Iraq and Iran, on the other hand, Kurds mostly settled in their own geographies and were not so dispersed throughout other parts of the country.</blockquote><br /><br />Now, this is not completely true. Tehran, Baghdad, Damascus and other cities have substantial Kurdish populations, along with other cities in all these countries. And one thing not to miss is this; in Iran or Syria the Kurds were not forced to leave their homes, as it is the case in Turkey (3 million people homeless, 4 thousand villages destroyed, all of the forests of Kurdistan burnt down, all of its water resources utilized etc). But lets assume for a second what he is saying is correct.<br /><br /><blockquote>Economic integration is at an advanced level. Kurds have secured substantial economic resources in almost every part of Turkey and made huge amounts of investments. In economic terms, there are countless partnerships between Turks and Kurds. Their interests are interrelated. On the other hand, while there are problems with regard to political and cultural rights, the Kurds enjoy equal status as citizens. A substantial number of Syria's Kurds, however, are not even citizens yet.</blockquote><br /><br />So the Kurds have secured all of the economic resources in the shoe-shining, begging, car-parking sectors. That is what he talking about, I think, because I cannot think of any other sector that has Kurds, and by Kurds I mean real Kurds not the fake ones who have become Turks. If it was not for the Kurds, there would not be one person who would work in construction business without any benefits or whatsoever. So it is true that there are countless partnerships between Kurds and Turks, otherwise the Turks would not be able to find any servants for them. It is true that the Kurds enjoy equal status with Turks, as long as they deny their roots and say that they are Turks. True, a lot of Kurds in Syria do not have citizenship, but they live with their honor, living and passing down their culture to the younger generations proudly. And the Kurds in Syria can always proudly say they are Kurdish, and almost never hide their identity. You compare it!<br /><br />I don’t want to make this already long post longer. The author does say that 3 thousand villages were ‘evacuated’ and that Turkey should help and recognize a free Kurdistan in Iraq, too. But, I think he is too much under the influence of the Turkist Fethullah Gulen, as he is writing in his newspaper, right?Azadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4619266339375395902.post-82353777313268728492008-06-27T18:08:00.000-07:002008-06-27T18:50:48.025-07:00Should AKP be closed down?Well, honestly I would have said no if this question was asked to me a month ago. But now, I say with all my heart and mind "YES, it should be closed down", point.<div><br /></div><div>There is a great article in <a href="http://taraf.com.tr/haberv.asp?HaberNo=11406">Taraf</a> about why it should be closed down. It is in Turkish unfortunately. But I agree with that article completely, and will probably say similar things to that article in this post, so dont worry if you dont know Turkish.</div><div><br /></div><div>Here are some reasons why AKP should be closed down:</div><div><br /></div><div>-First and foremost it should be closed down so that the leaders of that party can, or maybe, understand finally that their freedom can only be granted through other people's freedoms. That is to say, if you want some freedom to yourself (headscarf), you should want it for others as well (Kurds). Because without everybody's rights granted there is no way that your freedoms will be!</div><div><br /></div><div>-So AKP has thought that if they collaborate with the army, they might be able to get done some of their objectives, the headscarf issue again, but now it is clear that the army is not willing to, nor will share any of its powers with anybody, but especially not with AKP who they deem as the representatives of radical islamist movement. On the contrary, the army is using all means, as was revealed in " the information support activity action plan", such as judges, universities, influential people, artists, writers, film-makers, media, all of the means that are possible to use to close down AKP. So this should be, hopefully, clear to AKP members now. Even though I have a lot of doubts, I do hope so.</div><div><br /></div><div>-There is a saying in Turkish which means "to be Muslim to yourself" meaning that they want things only for themselves. If they ever uttered a word about DTP's closure, they would have been in a better position now. But they did not pronounce a word about it, and now they are complaining about it. Saying we are chosen by the will of our people, as if DTP was not chosen by the will of the people but rather some other countrymen. </div><div><br /></div><div>-They should, now, know better that if they dont defend others rights when it is necessary, those others will not defend their rights either, when they need it. </div><div><br /></div><div>-It should have been completely understood that until "the constitution" that was written by the fascist generals after the coup of 1980 is not changed completely, and a new one written, there is no way that Turkey could become a truly democratic country under the shadow of the generals all the time. Omnipotent generals, I shall say to be more precise. The first three articles of "that" constitution cannot be changed and cannot be even suggested to change, again, according to "that" constitution. What are those three articles? That Turkey is only and only TURKISH, that no language other than TURKISH could be spoken, written or listened, that everyone in Turkey is TURKISH and some other bullshit like these ones. Imagine this: Even the holy books of religions, which are supposedly God's words are being changed to cope with today's needs, but NOOOOO the holy book of the generals is holier than those religious books. That is what I understand when I hear, "these articles cannot be changed and cannot be even suggested to change". Oh and of course that Ataturk was/is/will always be the greatest GOD of all times!</div><div><br /></div><div>-This is a fight. And in a fight one side always has to lose to the other side. If the swords are taken out of their sheaths, they shall be used. It seems like AKP has a big chance of winning, if they dont act like chickens, as they have done so so far.</div><div><br /></div><div>-It is good that they are trying to close down AKP, because now they feel the sword in their asses, they either come to their senses and use the sword in their hands to take the one in their asses, or that sword in their asses shall make a big and unrepairable hole in their asses, that will always be seen.</div><div><br /></div><div>These are some of the things that come to my mind when I think about it. I am sure there are some more things that we can find to say that, it is a good thing that AKP will, hopefully, be closed down. This might bring the promises of Recep Tayyip Erdogan to his useless mind, and that without keeping those promises he will never be an effective man, that will be respected by everyone even if he gets 99 % percent of the votes, and not only 47 %.</div><div><br /></div><div>I am hopeful that it will be closed down, and that might affect the future of the prospective Chief of General Staff; who that will be and how it will change the dynamics of the country.</div><div><br /></div><div>That is it for now, I shall elaborate more on this when the time comes.</div><div><br /></div>Azadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4619266339375395902.post-86108280431662665082008-06-25T17:36:00.000-07:002008-06-25T18:09:03.114-07:00THEIR DIRTINESS IS MORE APPARENT THAN EVER BEFORE; BUT THEY STILL LAUGH DISGUSTINGLY!Recently, there have been some incredibly important news about the Turkish General Staff, or the army, and its role in Turkey, and its dirty plans. Mostly revealed by Taraf daily newspaper. I would like to say that Taraf with all its workers is doing a great job. A very dangerous job, but a righteous job that all other filthy newspapers should, but do not do and rather open their arms, pockets and everything else to those power-hungry, blood-thirsty generals of Turkish Army.<br /><br />Anyway, I will not talk about the news papers and who controls most of them and what kind of fascist he is that his most-sold newspaper <a href="http://e-gazete.hurriyet.com.tr/Hurriyet/2008/06/25/1/01/main.aspx">Hurriyet's motto</a> is this : "Turkey belongs to the Turks" with Ataturk's picture on a Turkish flag! they are right, though. Turkey does belong to Turks, and Kurdistan to the Kurds, Armenia to the Armenians, Greece to the Greeks etc. Only if they showed some of the respect that they are asking and getting from us and others!<br /><br />Yesterday's Taraf had another great, sensational news about the Turkish Army and its dirty plans. Apparently, they knew that the Daglica Raid was going to happen, but they did not do anything to prevent it. Why? Well, why not? Because this way they could get their long-desired permission to enter Southern Kurdistan. This way they could say that the PKK is bad and lets all get together against them. This way they could kill some more innocent, ignorant (and stupid at the same time), soldiers, because they are worthless in the generals eyes', as we all know it very well. It is so sad that after all these news, how Turkish people is turning a blind eye to all these dirty war tactics, how they are not objecting to their children's deaths that is being done by the bloody hands of generals.<br /><br />I took the time to translate the new news about Daglica Raid from Taraf. The puzzle now is crystal clear; especially after <a href="http://rastibini.blogspot.com/2008/06/tsk-and-psyops-information-support.html">"the information support activity action plan" </a>was revealed in Taraf and now with this piece of news. Below is the full translation of the <a href="http://www.taraf.com.tr/haberv.asp?HaberNo=11262">News from Taraf</a> (in Turkish) that was published on Wednesday June 25, 2008, but was ignored by almost all other newspapers and TV channels. One wonders why?<br /><br /><blockquote>DAGLICA ATTACK WAS KNOWN!<br /><br />It is revealed that the Gendarmerie Intelligence knew that the Daglica attack, in which 13 soldiers were killed, was going to happen 9 days before it happened and sent a secret report to the General Staff and other related units. In this “urgent’ sealed gendarmerie intelligence report, which Taraf has it now, how attack is going to be conducted, and when is written in details.<br /><br />The information about Daglica attack, in which 13 soldiers were killed and 8 were tried for ‘treason’, was sent to all responsible and authorized units 9 days before actual attack: including Hakkari Mountain Brigade, and General Staff Presidency. In these documents Taraf obtained, which was dated October 12, 2007, and “urgent” sealed intelligence report by Van Gendarmerie Intelligence Army Corps Commandership all details of attack are given such as: from where the attack will be conducted, the time of the attack, and the coordinates of the bases that will be attacked. This report was sent to General staff Intelligence Presidency first, and then to Land Forces Commandership Intelligence Presidency, Gendarmerie Commandership Intelligence Presidency, 2nd Army Commandership Intelligence Presidency, and to Hakkari Mountain Commando Brigade that is bound to Daglica Battalion Commandership and all related Commanderships.<br /><br />EVERYBODY KNEW THE ATTACK:<br />In this report numbered 3590-2292-07/İDAM (63939), and faxed at 18.36 with the title of “Information Instruction”, the attack on Daglica Brigade is described exactly as follows: “The T.O. (Guerrilla Organization) that is under responsibility of Zindan in Hakkari-Yuksekova Ikiyaka Region, is trying to get intelligence through their pawns, about 3rd Daglica Motorized Brigade Commandership (20-37), and are planning to conduct an attack on the Keri Tepe (19-35) Base region between the region named Geper (22-35) while the military units carry out their tasks …”<br /><br />GENDARMERIE MADE A REPORT TOO:<br />Two days after Van Gendarmerie Intelligence Army Corps Commandership sent this report on October 12, Gendarmerie General Commandership prepared “Internal Intelligence Report” and sent it to related units. In this report dated October 14, this was said: “the members of the guerrilla organization, that are active in the Hakkari-Yuksekova region, are planning to attack to our security forces that are on an operation”.<br /><br />THEY HAVE NAMES OF THE ATTACKERS TOO:<br />In addition to this information, there are warnings about the possibility of attacks in Siirt, Sirnak, Van regions and information about the security stations in these regions and the PKK members’ identities that will do the attack with details in both of those reports prepared.<br /><br />CODE NAME WEDDING:<br />Van Chief Office of Prosecution finished its Daglica investigation. The most eye-catching detail in the dossier is the name PKK gave to the attack: Wedding. The attack was conducted when the Daglica Commander was in a wedding.<br /><br />ENCRYPTION DISSOLVED:<br />Interesting details were revealed in the news, that Dogan New Agency primarily and other agencies sent to their subscribers. It came to surface that there are 12 more people being tried for sharing intelligence with PKK in this investigation that the court pending a trial released 8 soldiers. In the indictment prepared by Van Republican Prosecutor Cetin Akkaya, the codes were dissolved as well, which were used in telephone conversation between PKK members and their informers in the villages and districts. It was stated that number of soldiers, village-guards and watch positions were told in these codes.<br /><br />FROM THE ‘SHOP’ TO THE ‘WEDDING’:<br />The phone conversation between “Zindan” codenamed Huseyin, with a phone belonged to “Agit” codenamed Vahyettin Karay who directed the attack, and “Besir” codenamed village-guard O.E., also appeared in the indictment.<br />From the wiretapping it was revealed that O.E. told the number of the soldiers and village-guards in Daglica to the guerrillas, and that they encrypted the attack as “Wedding”, the place where the PKK members were as “Shop”, northern Iraq as “Istanbul”, and the senior leader of the organization as “Big brother”.<br /><br />BRIGATE IN THEIR PALMS:<br />Village-guard O.E., who is standing on trial arrested in Van 4th heavy penal court, said, “Hello cousin there are 22 goziri (soldiers). Day and night, 10 (village-guards), 12 (ranking soldiers) are staying there. In the same number across, in boot way, there is a hill there, are staying there. Good evening. Regards.” in a text message that he sent to the guerrilla Huseyin.<br />In another phone conversation, it was revealed that he said, “I said there were 15 (soldiers). Others too (village-guards). All are 22, with new comers total is 44 (soldiers). Before 22 were going, now it is 44. Because some of our men went to it (soldiers). The place where we once ate together. Until now there two sides (soldiers) across, now there it is 44, so that you know”.<br />Among 8 arrested defendants that are being accused of helping the Daglica attack, there is a 70 years old woman named H.A. It was stated that from H.A.’s phone conversations it was understood that she sent new members to the mountain fraction of the organization, and that she was in touch with PKK member “Beritan” codenamed Cihan Asi who stays in Kanirash in the northern Iraq.<br /><br />WHAT HAPPENED IN DAGLICA?<br />According to the documents Taraf has, General Staff, Lands Forces, Gendarmerie, 2nd Army and Intelligence Units in Hakkari knew all about the Daglica Attack and still on October 21, 2007 PKK conducted the Daglica Attack, killed 13 soldiers, and took the other 8 soldiers as POWs to their camps in northern Iraq.<br />14 days after this event, the soldiers were brought to Turkey but they were put in prison with “accusation of treason”. Brigade Commander Onur Direk blamed private Ramazan Yuce for helping the PKK members. In the first trial on February 2, 2008 the court pending released all 8 soldiers. Afterwards the sound recording of Dirik (about the attack) appeared on YouTube. Dirik, acknowledged his faults in the attack, and cursed (swore to) the commanders in General Staff and a first lieutenant that was killed (whose diary he was reading). After this he was appointed to Supply Commandership Division Logistics Chairmanship in Afyon.<br /><br /><br />Notes:<br />I changed the word “terrorist” for “guerrilla”.<br />I said “Daglica Attack”, but it could also be translated as “Daglica Raid”<br /><br /></blockquote>Azadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4619266339375395902.post-65359966210887192622008-06-20T13:27:00.000-07:002008-06-20T13:34:49.549-07:00This blog shall reflect my personal views about Kurds and Human Rights in all four parts of Kurdistan!That has been a long time since I wrote anything about the Kurds, rather I was satisfying myself with reading already existent Kurdish blogs, and News sites. But, I have come to the conclusion that every voice for the Kurdish Cause is important. Thus, I will shout as hard as I can, at the top of my lungs, for this cause from here. May this be another good blog to inform people, who are interested in Kurds, and care about Human Rights including the Kurds' rights, in a better way than the Fascist Turkish Media, and in general the ignorant and ignoring medias of the world!Azadîxwazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07389763157209844531noreply@blogger.com2